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Technical Support / Re: Level slider came back?
« Last post by Paul Sanders (AlpineSoft) on June 27, 2020, 11:41:28 am »
OK, thanks for the update.

I retested VinylStudio with "USB Audio CODEC" (the default driver for budget USB devices) on the latest version of Windows 10 and the behaviour was the same as it has always been so I don't know what's going on at your end.
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Technical Support / Re: Level slider came back?
« Last post by agbrown on June 25, 2020, 10:32:51 pm »
Resolved, I think.

Reinstalled my old 204HD driver. Successfully recorded 3 LPs.
Old driver doesn't play well with WASAPI. 
Slider is still present.
WASAPI selection has no effect on slider presence or cause the "digital gain" selection box to appear.

Unfortunately I don't recall if I attempted an entire recording with/without WASAPI selected. i mainly toggled it to see if the Slider went away and for any immediate effects. My bad in retrospect.

Prior to reinstalling the old driver I recorded an album successfully, but got a (not verbatim) "playback device unavailable" error when I went to split the tracks. When I looked at the playback/record tabs the 204HD device had disappeared entirely. It was also missing from Device Manager.

VS is working. Great product. Appreciate your assistance.

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Technical Support / Re: Level slider came back?
« Last post by Paul Sanders (AlpineSoft) on June 25, 2020, 12:34:59 am »
> 2nd one the level indicators locked on third song.

Please uncheck the 'Use WASAPI' box.  It has that effect sometimes.
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Technical Support / Re: Level slider came back?
« Last post by agbrown on June 25, 2020, 12:18:31 am »
WASAPI :)

Did 2 more RIPS. First one went fine.

2nd one the level indicators locked on third song. 

1) Tried to look at the split tracks window to see if anything had been recorded. No response from menus.

2) I closed the VS window (X), at this point it may have said something about "writing buffered data to drive", not exactly sure when that occurred. Just looped. File size was 0 in file explorer.

3)When I launched VS it reopened in Record Mode (work with an existing album). Displayed a dialog box saying "unable to open file ... in use by another process".

4) I tried to remove recording from the Album menu. Similar dialog box, "unable to delete file ..."

5) Closed VS and looked in Task Manager. VS still had a process running.

6) Opened VS, a second process showed momentarily then just one. Selected and killed VS process, VS window closed but a VS process was still running.

7) Rebooted laptop and all VS processes were gone. Launched VS, killed process, process died, window closed.

Going out to enjoy some WASABI



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Technical Support / Re: Level slider came back?
« Last post by Paul Sanders (AlpineSoft) on June 24, 2020, 09:55:11 pm »
> Any idea if the "Recording controls/sound/record tab/listen tab/listen to this device box" should be checked?

Probably not.  That would interfere with VinylStudio's Monitoring function.

> So has Windows restored the slider, or the reinstall of VS?

That must be Windows - we haven't changed anything.

> Where did the "-1 digital gain" box go? Anything to worry about? "WASABI" or not?

You might see it if you check the 'Use WASAPI' box (WASABI is a Japanese condiment :).  I don't know which will work best, you'll have to experiment.

> I'm fairly certain that the slider "wasn't" there before and the "set digital gain" was.

I think you're probably right.  We will do some tests at our end.
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Technical Support / Level slider came back?
« Last post by agbrown on June 24, 2020, 07:43:44 pm »
Been using VS since 2012 with occasional H/W changes. My set up for the last 18 months or so has been:  TT -> ART Preamp w/variable gain (RCA) -> Behringer UMC204HD A/I w/variable gain (USB) -> Win10 laptop. The UMC204HD is USB powered.

Yesterday I replaced the laptop, updated windows, opted out of "Secure" mode, updated my UMC204 driver, reinstalled VS and configured the recording controls as best as I could recall.

Any idea if the "Recording controls/sound/record tab/listen tab/listen to this device box" should be checked?

During a test RIP I had some connection issues which I think are resolved, not sure. The "microphone" issue, an occasional "device (UMC204) in use by another application" and total loss of recording at one point.

While trying to get things working I noticed that the Gain slider was back next to the level indicators. The "use WASABI" box doesn't make any difference and I don't get the "-1 digital gain" box. The Gain slider didn't seem to do anything.

So has Windows restored the slider, or the reinstall of VS? The UMC has manual Gain controls so I don't see why the slider is back. Where did the "-1 digital gain" box go? Anything to worry about? "WASABI" or not?

I ran out of time but will try again tonight.

It appears that the slider does affect the level. Appears to function the same whether "WASABI" is selected or not. Currently have slider set to max and using gain controls on the 204HD. Still not seeing the "digital gain" box. I'm a set and forget kind of guy and I'm fairly certain that the slider "wasn't" there before and the "set digital gain" was. Perhaps my memory is bad.
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Thanks for the explanation Paul.

Cheers! :)
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It's to do with the file size.  Once it goes over (at a guess) 2GB then whatever you're recording it with converts it to WAV 64.  The official limit is 4GB, but not all software handles that correctly so they are hedging their bets.
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Technical Support / Re: Recording level - odd behaviour
« Last post by Paul Sanders (AlpineSoft) on June 13, 2020, 09:03:51 pm »
Hi,

You need to click the 'Set Digital Gain to 1' button in VinylStudio's Check Level dialog.  The recording indicators will then read correctly.

Don't move the slider after doing this.
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Technical Support / Recording level - odd behaviour
« Last post by mshere on June 13, 2020, 07:34:58 pm »
I am using a Fubar Mk 3 DAC into a newish laptop using Windows 10. I am using WASAPI, as I found it was the only setting in which I could get the recording bars to function. I have recorded some 40 vinyl albums with great results.
However the recording level has suddenly started behaving oddly. It sets its own limit on what it will accept! The max number at the top of the recording bars sets itself at a level which is usually 71, 79 or 89! and then the recording level bars won't go beyond that figure seeming to clip anything louder. When I change the slider it doesn't alter the effect, but sometimes just sets its clipping level lower. If I click the green reset icon, it will reset the max number but then when the music reaches the previous max level eg 79, it clips it there again.

Actually, I have been playing with it whilst typing this and have probably solved the issue myself, but probably worth sending in case anyone else has had the same problem.
The first thing I noticed that it had started happening because I had starting recording some 45rpm 12 inch singles. There is a higher output from these and the slider needed to be lowered to get the correct recording level. When I went back to 33 1/3 rpm the above problem went away. So I had the bright idea of turning down the recording level knob on the Fubar DAC, putting on a 45 rpm and problem solved!  Not intuitive, but the problem seemed to be causde by having too high an input level which wasn't beig handled by the VS slider recording level, although it was only at about 50 when I was trying to record the 45 rpms.

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