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#1
General Discussion / Re: Music Recognition Software
Last post by Indy33 - July 03, 2025, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Sanders (AlpineSoft) on July 03, 2025, 10:05:20 AMFrom memory, we import most of what they make available.  What are you missing?
Nothing particular, just curious.
#2
Quote from: Indy33 on July 02, 2025, 10:32:47 PMMaybe the software could hold in memory the song's fingerprint presently playing and the next song's fingerprint. Then drop a track break at the change.
Catch-22?  VinylStudio doesn't yet know where the track breaks are...

Quote from: Indy33 on July 02, 2025, 10:32:47 PMOn a different subject, does VS download a limited amount of metadata from Discogs or MusicBrainz. Looking at a VS music file, it only has maybe a dozen metadata values.
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From memory, we import most of what they make available.  What are you missing?
#3
General Discussion / Re: Music Recognition Software
Last post by Indy33 - July 02, 2025, 10:32:47 PM
Quote from: Paul Sanders (AlpineSoft) on July 02, 2025, 03:55:03 PMHow does finding the song on Shazam help?
Shazam helps me determine when the music changes to the next song. But it's cumbersome to use for this. I might have to play the same passage where I think the music changes to the next song. Sometimes I have to backup and play the same passage 10-12 times starting Shazam at a different location each time. Until I identify where the change takes place.

AcoustID can identify a song, but that's after the album file is broken into tracks. I'm wondering if it could be used to decide when the album file changes songs using the acoutic fingerprint.

Maybe the software could hold in memory the song's fingerprint presently playing and the next song's fingerprint. Then drop a track break at the change.

On a different subject, does VS download a limited amount of metadata from Discogs or MusicBrainz. Looking at a VS music file, it only has maybe a dozen metadata values.
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#4
OK, thanks.  How does finding the song on Shazam help?

One thing that might be of interest is that you can move track breaks as a group by holding down the Alt key.  So if the first one is a bit out you can drag them all and then maybe the others are more or less correct.
#5
General Discussion / Re: Music Recognition Software
Last post by Indy33 - July 02, 2025, 12:26:43 AM
I can still find the albums on Discogs, but that is never exactly right. It always requires manual adjustment.

Where I really have trouble with is when there is NO dead space between tracks. The music just blends from one song to the next. It's not obvious where the song should be divided. I've used Shazam on my phone a few times, but that requires pulling my headphone off some so that the phone can pickup the music.

Checking out this website if you haven't already.

https://acoustid.org/
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#6
Interesting thought, I'll take a look.  Presumably, you're not able to find those albums in Discogs or Music Brainz so you have to do all the track splitting by hand.
#7
General Discussion / Music Recognition Software
Last post by Indy33 - June 29, 2025, 11:22:04 PM
Trying to decide when one song ends and another begin can be a big headache on live performances and classical music.

I've come across a few that might work .....
Song Kong, Jaikoz and AcousticBrainz. Interestingly, the first two are from the same company.

I want to do this without a microphone, so the software will have to look at the songs digital footprint. This would have to use a database with the songs footprints. I think that's what AcousticBrainz does for other software, but not sure.

Anyone aware of any software that can do this?

Sounds like a NEW FEATURE for Vinyl Studio. What say you Paul, sounds like an interesting new challenge.  8)
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#8
OK, can you email me and I'll arrange to collect a file from you that shows this problem.  I'll then take a look.

You can contact me here:

p DOT sanders AT alpinesoft DOT co DOT uk

Thanks.
#9
Technical Support / Re: Scan for Track Breaks does...
Last post by Chris115v - June 28, 2025, 02:17:22 AM
I use the scanner when Discogs does not have track times - so I have the list of track names but no breaks.

I'll try adjusting the params if it happens again. I have them adjusted to where they get as close to where I want them, but they are not too far off from the defaults.

What about some code to attempt to stop this runaway situation from happening?
#10
Hi,

Are you not able to find these albums on Discogs?

If not, you can try some combination of increasing the minimum track length, increasing the minimum gap length and increasing the threshold start level.