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Steve Crook

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« on: August 29, 2018, 11:14:11 pm »
A couple of questions about metadata put into generated tracks. I can see three tags created by Vinyl Studio, CONTACT, GROUPING and LOCATION, the first says Vinyl Studio, the others both say (in my case) 'Ripped LPs' so I'm assuming this root directory specified for generated tracks. Couldn't see anything anywhere about them in the help or here. Can you say more about them? First is self evident, but the other two?

Also a suggestion. I'd want to record the date, time and equipment used for each rip in a custom tag. There's no way to create custom tags in VS (that I've found) so I'm using the COMMENT tag via the Album Details panel. At some point I'll write something around metaflac to shift those comments into a custom tag. But it would be nice to be able to create user tags within VS and have values (like recording date & time, and custom strings) automatically included.

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Re: Metadata
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2018, 05:11:31 am »
Hi,

What player app are you using please and what file format are you saving your tracks in?

We will add custom tags to our wish list.
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Re: Metadata
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2018, 09:32:47 am »
I have an android player I'm partway through writing for myself, but also using BubbleUpnp until I can start to send to Upnp renderers and Chromecast from my own app. Generally, content is either on the phone or served from a Minimserver instance. Renderers are various, but mostly Moode, occasionally Kodi or chromecast audio pucks.

I record LP's directly to flac 24/192 and put onto my main server as flac. I've written a program that uses MetaFlac to calculate replay gain, then mirrors out to backups & transcodes a complete copy to ogg and maintains portable subsets for phone, car, wife.

I've been using a program called Metatogger to edit missing/inconsistent meta on ripped CDs that I've found through an analysis program I've written with the metadata retrieved via MetaFlac. Missing years, genre missing or inconsistent, all sorts, from years of ripping CDs and not paying much attention to the metadata.

Metatogger showed me the tags you're adding.


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Re: Metadata
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2018, 01:30:20 pm »
OK, thanks.

To answer your question about the GROUPING and LOCATION tags, the GROUPING tag is set to the name of the current collection unless you specify something in the Edit Album Details or Edit Track Details dialogs, in which case these take precedence (track takes precedence over album, if both are set).  The LOCATION tag is always set to the name of the collection.

What tags would you use for date, time and equipment?  Anything else you are thinking of?

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Re: Metadata
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2018, 11:04:58 am »
> What tags would you use for date, time and equipment?  Anything else you are thinking of?

I'd like to be able to specify the names of tags and give them format strings. For instance %date, %time to include the date/time of the recording as well as a %userData to represent a string supplied to Vinyl Studio somewhere. A typical string would like like this: "%userData_1 recorded on: %date at: %time" I'd use the fixed string to hold the details of the equipment used to make the recording.

This isn't information I'd want to display in a media player so I'm happy with custom tag names I specify rather than picking from a 'well known' set.

I'd also wondered about other meta about the denoise, declick settings (where appropriate). Nothing complicated, but if I decide I don't like the settings I've been using, it would be nice to be able to go back and quickly identify all the recordings with those settings to be able to adjust them and regenerate tracks

Would it be possible to generate a set of REPLAYGAIN tags when the tracks are output? I can do this through oggenc2 and metflac, but it would be much nicer to have it integrated in VS.

I can't think of anything else :)