Dealing with side 2

[wallewek]

I read the help docs, but couldn't see what I need to know about this.

VS does a really great job continuing recording of side 2 of LPs, but if you take too long to flip and drop the needle, it times out waiting and you need to click Record before you drop the needle, or it will cut off the start of side 2.  Am I missing something, and/or is there a way to extend that timeout?

Pursuant to that, I had this cutoff occur with and album I was recording yesterday, and I figured I could just re-record that first track and patch it in. But no, it appears there's no way in VS to do that, so can I just delete that side 2 recording and re-record it?  Or is there a better way I'm overlooking?

Thanks for all the help!

[wallewek]

I think I've answered my own question for the first part, at least.

I deleted all the tracks from side 2 of the first recording, and also all the second recording (nominally just side 2 track 1).  Now I'm re-recording side 2 as part of the second album.  My theory is that it will merge with the first recording. 

[wallewek]

Well, that mostly worked, but when I scanned for track breaks, after it found the proper tracks, it seemed to go nuts and create a whole lot of empty track breaks.  I hit Esc stop the break creation loop and used Del to delete the bogus ones, and after that all seems fine.

So the only remaining question is about starting side 2 cleanly -- who waits for who?

[Paul Sanders (AlpineSoft)]

Hi,

We don't *intend* for there to be a timeout while waiting for you to drop the needle for side 2.  As an interim measure, you might like to increase the maximum recording time, perhaps there's a bug in that area.

As for 'Scan for Track Breaks' going wild and creating lots of tracks, we now have two reports of this but have not yet been able to reproduce the problem here so we can't diagnose it.  If you have a reproducible case, please let us know and we'll follow it up.

[wallewek]

Thanks for your reply -- maybe I'm not saying it correctly. 

When it detects end of side, there is a dialog box (in yellow) that contains a countdown timer waiting for needle drop for side two.  If I get the record flipped and needle dropped before the timer reaches zero, it clearly continues recording on the Side 1 recording.  But if I don't, the dialog reverts to waiting for me to click Record.  If I don't click in time, it seems to ignore incoming audio.

I'm a little confused by that, though, because even though it seems to be waiting for me to click record, I'm not positive whether it's really recording the audio or not.  I don't think it says "Recording" but I dunno, maybe it is.

For now, I just watch that timer like a hawk, and don't drop the needle of it's close and I need to click Record first.

I don't see how it could be related to max recording time as it's always the same timeout, maybe 20 seconds or so.

[Paul Sanders (AlpineSoft)]

OK, thanks, I understand now.  The good news is that you don't need to watch that timer.  Instead, just let it time out (you might be off doing other things, perhaps) and then, when you're ready to record side 2, just click Record again and follow the prompts.

Another way to do things is to check the 'Record all sides as one file' box.  VinylStudio will then offer to *resume* recording when the end of the first album side is reached.  Both methods are equally viable, as per your personal preference.

[wallewek]

Yes, thanks, I already "Record all sides as one file".  It really works very nicely -- BUT.  Here's the rub:

If I'm late dropping the side 2 needle (say I'm fiddling with turntable or something), and the sound starts coming in after the timeout expires, before I get back to click Record, I risk lopping off start of first track on side 2.  And there's no way to easily patch that in later.

I've looked and don't see any way to extend that timeout.  I'd rather it was at least twice as long, or didn't time out at all.