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tketcham

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Improve graphic display of click repairs?
« on: June 25, 2018, 12:45:37 pm »
Hello, Paul,

The graphic display of click repairs (green bars turn to black bars) is very difficult to see when using most laptops due to the limited screen and resulting pixel size. There isn't enough contrast between green and black. I was wondering if it would be possible to change the display of the waveform and the click repairs so there was more contrast? For example, changing the waveform to black or dark grey and the click repairs to bright red or pink or changing the background to light grey, the waveform to black or dark grey and the click repairs to yellow. Basically a color scheme whereby the contrast between waveform and click repair was more distinct. Perhaps providing the new color scheme as an option under Settings.

Thanks for your consideration.

Regards,
Tom

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Re: Improve graphic display of click repairs?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2018, 01:54:51 pm »
OK, we'll think about this, thank you.

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Re: Improve graphic display of click repairs?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2019, 05:40:36 pm »
Hi, Paul,

I'm sure you're busy working on operational aspects of VinylStudio and my suggestion is not a high priority but the display of click repairs fully zoomed out is basically non-functional on a laptop with the current graphics layout and becoming very frustrating. You're probably using a large-format, high resolution monitor so the display works for you. But for those of us using a smaller (14 to 15 in.) laptop the display makes it all but impossible to see the difference between the green waveform and the black click repairs. Not without zooming in so far that it would take hours to manually scan a series of recordings for missed clicks/pops.

I run the "de-clicking" routine at low settings (1 or 2) for sensitivity and high settings (4) for percussion protection so that only the most noticeable clicks are corrected. Obviously this combination can miss certain clicks that are interpreted as percussion so I manually scan the waveform for peaks that could be loud clicks or pops and repair them as needed. But if I'm not able to clearly see which of those peaks are already corrected I end up having to listen to the entire recording or, as mentioned, zoom way in to see if a peak is a click/pop and has been corrected or not. Either way, it's very time consuming and it seems that changing how click repairs are displayed would make the process of finding the missed clicks and pops so much more efficient.

For example, use an eye-catching (and contrasting) line color and display the repaired click as a line from top to bottom of the panel, not just the corresponding height of the waveform at the repaired click. I uploaded samples from a typical waveform to help visualize what I'm trying to convey:

The first image is an uncorrected section of a 32 minute long waveform at "zoom out all the way", vertical zoom 200%.

The second image is the corrected section of a 32 minute long waveform at "zoom out all the way", vertical zoom 200%. As you can see, it's very difficult to see the black highlighting of the corrected clicks if the image is kept at standard laptop screen resolution and scale. (If you click on the image it expands to probably what you see with a large monitor.)

The third image is of a corrected click, zoomed in just until the light blue highlight shows up. If you could display the highlighted click at "zoom out all the way" in a similar way (but in a contrasting color), it would be much easier to see them.

I do enjoy the program's overall features but if there's a way to improve the click repair display I think there are others like myself who would very much appreciate the change. Thanks for listening.

Regards,
Tom
« Last Edit: February 28, 2019, 12:32:46 pm by tketcham »

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Re: Improve graphic display of click repairs?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2019, 12:59:09 pm »
I don't think there's much to be gained here.  You're not really supposed to be able to see individual click repairs when zoomed out - instead, the preponderance of grey shows the *density* if click repairs in any particular region.

A missed click is a missed click.  If VinylStudio did not detect it then there's nothing to display.  Try Spectral View.