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#1

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by Ecoli-557 - May 24, 2024, 08:26:26 PM

Thanks to All on this.
I will have to wait and see if I can find a good deal on a suitable ADC to move this project forward.
Frustrating, but not down.....

#2

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by LtMandella - May 24, 2024, 05:45:52 PM

I chucked my Korg 100m into the garbage.  I liked the sound quality a lot, but those units require a custom Korg windows driver which gave me so many blue screens on my PC that I couldn't take it anymore.

Never again would I use the Korg drivers.  I really like the sound of my MR-1 but that recorder is an independant portable device that doesn't use a PC for any functionality.

#3

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by Indy33 - May 24, 2024, 05:35:14 PM

I appreciate everyone helping in this - a wee bit more complicated than I had given thought.
As a newbie, DSD has more 'sound stage presence' possibly but, at the risk of not being able to edit the pops and clicks or any equalizing?  Do I have this correct?
LtMandella, I too have an ultrasonic cleaner and while most are fairly clean, there are a few that get in...... will try it however without editing.
Indy33, thanks for the notion to 'cut out' microsecond clicks/pops - may try that as well.

As you both understand this much better than me, why are we not able to edit DSD?  I still just do not have the big picture even after looking online.

You might see some software that claims to edit DSD, but most likely it's converting DSD to PCM to edit the file, then when you done it coverts it back to DSD. There could be software out there that does edit native DSD, but I'm not aware of one.

Yes you do seem to have the basic concept about DSD. There is lots of info out there about DSD, but the link below does a pretty good job of a simple explanation.

https://www.whathifi.com/advice/what-dsd-audio-how-it-works-where-to-download-files-and-more

You will need a playback software that can play DSD, not all can do this. Some that can are Adirvana, Foobar2000 and Roon.

I'm using the Korg DS-DAC-10R for recording to DSD, but I'm not sure I would recommend it at this time. I just wish it would work with "Adirvana Origin" at the kernel level, so it could take exclusive control. The Korg does comes with it own software for recording. If you check on the Adirvana website, it has a list of DAC's that does work with their software.

https://community.audirvana.com/c/plays-with-audirvana/67
https://audirvana.com/audirvana-origin/

Good Luck !!!

https://www.amazon.com/Korg-DSDAC10R-SOFTWARE-ANALOG-CONVERTER/dp/B017TZ0KYO/ref

#4

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by Ecoli-557 - May 23, 2024, 11:57:31 PM

Makes some sense actually, thanks.

I can not at this time even try DSD as I have no ADC that spits it out......

#5

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by Ecoli-557 - May 23, 2024, 11:56:47 PM

why are we not able to edit DSD?

My limited understanding is that each encoded value in DSD is computed from the previous moment's encoded value.  It is not simply a "snapshot" if you will of whatever waveforms were detected at any moment.

So cutting and pasting of encoded moments ends up being gibberish.

Makes some sense, thank you. 

#6

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by LtMandella - May 23, 2024, 11:53:23 PM

I would not panic about not having DSD until you give it a thorough tryout.  Some people don't like it: too "laid back" or "artificially smooth" sounding. 

#7

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by LtMandella - May 23, 2024, 11:51:26 PM

why are we not able to edit DSD?

My limited understanding is that each encoded value in DSD is computed from the previous moment's encoded value.  It is not simply a "snapshot" if you will of whatever waveforms were detected at any moment.

So cutting and pasting of encoded moments ends up being gibberish.

#8

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by Ecoli-557 - May 23, 2024, 11:50:41 PM

Rats.
My ADL GT40 apparently does NOT do DSD.
Back to the drawing board.......

#9

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by Ecoli-557 - May 23, 2024, 11:36:43 PM

I appreciate everyone helping in this - a wee bit more complicated than I had given thought.
As a newbie, DSD has more 'sound stage presence' possibly but, at the risk of not being able to edit the pops and clicks or any equalizing?  Do I have this correct?
LtMandella, I too have an ultrasonic cleaner and while most are fairly clean, there are a few that get in...... will try it however without editing.
Indy33, thanks for the notion to 'cut out' microsecond clicks/pops - may try that as well.

As you both understand this much better than me, why are we not able to edit DSD?  I still just do not have the big picture even after looking online.

#10

General Discussion / Re: New User for using VS to a...

Last post by Indy33 - May 23, 2024, 11:04:56 PM

I did not say DSD was better for editing.  Far from it.  H

I don't know why you thought I was talking to you, your post was not even directly above mine. I was just adding information to the thread.

Sorry if I offended you.